[Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during i
nstallation!!
jleyda
floppertalk@oldskool.org
Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:53:26 -0600
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I'm starting to get a really bad feeling about this, but try this one:
http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip <http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip>
do the "install /2" again.
I've removed all the unnecessary diskette writes from the 2nd portion of the install.
This version (for me, even running it in a DOS window under XP) was able to read data off the floppy and save it to a file called vectabl.dat.
good luck.
You should most certainly mail me the file "vectabl.dat" that it creates so I can verify that it's actually a vector table and not some random garbage from your floppy disk. If install is failing this miserably, I can't imagine that it was actually able to write the correct data to the floppy, but ya never know.
-jeff!
-----Original Message-----
From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:14 PM
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org
Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during installation!!
When i try install /2 it hangs when trying to read the disk.
----- Original Message -----
From: jleyda <mailto:jleyda@micron.com>
To: 'floppertalk@oldskool.org' <mailto:'floppertalk@oldskool.org'>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during installation!!
Do you have any virus protection enabled in the BIOS on your computer?
Flopper tries to re-write the boot sector at this point, which is rather virus-like in behavior and might be caught by the BIOS.
Are you using a 1.44mb disk? (high density 3.5") and a high density 3.5" drive?
The vital information that flopper needs *might* be saved onto the diskette even though it hung up at that point. Try this:
Boot into safe mode DOS, change to wherever you unzipped flopper, put the flopper diskette in the drive and type "install /2" and install should then attempt to read the data off the disk that it needs and will save it to a file called vectabl.dat. The file will be 1k in size.
You'll need the install.com from the new version of flopper that I linked you to yesterday.
If you'd like, mail that vectable.dat file to me jeff@silent.net <mailto:jeff@silent.net> and I can check to see if it appears to be valid data or garbage, and we'll take it from there.
sorry for the headaches. You've got a weird error, that's for sure.
-jeff!
-----Original Message-----
From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:29 PM
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org
Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during installation!!
when i run the install program after booting to the floppy disk, and push enter, the drive light comes on but nothing happens.
----- Original Message -----
From: jleyda@micron.com <mailto:jleyda@micron.com>
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org <mailto:floppertalk@oldskool.org>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:46 AM
Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during installation!!
can you provide just a few more details?
actually, can you try this version and see if this helps?
http://www.waste.org/~winkles/flop_102.zip <http://www.waste.org/~winkles/flop_102.zip>
-jeff!
-----Original Message-----
From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:18 AM
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org <mailto:floppertalk@oldskool.org>
Subject: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during installation!!
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=372014513-27082003><FONT face=Verdana
color=#0000ff>I'm starting to get a really bad feeling about this, but try this
one:</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=372014513-27082003><FONT face=Verdana
color=#0000ff><A
href="http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip">http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip</A></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=372014513-27082003><FONT face=Verdana
color=#0000ff>do the "install /2" again.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=372014513-27082003><FONT face=Verdana
color=#0000ff>I've removed all the unnecessary diskette writes from the 2nd
portion of the install.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003>This version (for me, even running it in a DOS window
under XP) was able to read data off the floppy and save it to a file called
vectabl.dat. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003>good luck.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003>You should most certainly mail me the file
"vectabl.dat" that it creates so I can verify that it's actually a vector table
and not some random garbage from your floppy disk. If install is failing
this miserably, I can't imagine that it was actually able to write the correct
data to the floppy, but ya never know.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003>-jeff!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=372014513-27082003> </SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 26, 2003
10:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B> floppertalk@oldskool.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during
installation!!<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When i try install /2 it hangs when trying to read
the disk.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jleyda@micron.com href="mailto:jleyda@micron.com">jleyda</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=floppertalk@oldskool.org
href="mailto:'floppertalk@oldskool.org'">'floppertalk@oldskool.org'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:53
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Floppertalk] Help! The
computer sticks after reboot during installation!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>Do
you have any virus protection enabled in the BIOS on your
computer?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>Flopper tries to re-write the boot sector at this point, which is
rather virus-like in behavior and might be caught by the
BIOS.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>Are you using a 1.44mb disk? (high density 3.5") and a high
density 3.5" drive?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>The vital information that flopper needs *might* be saved onto the
diskette even though it hung up at that point. Try
this:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>Boot into safe mode DOS, change to wherever you unzipped flopper, put
the flopper diskette in the drive and type "install /2" and install
should then attempt to read the data off the disk that it needs and will save
it to a file called vectabl.dat. The file will be 1k in
size.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>You'll need the install.com from the new version of flopper that I
linked you to yesterday.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>If
you'd like, mail that vectable.dat file to me <A
href="mailto:jeff@silent.net">jeff@silent.net</A> and I can check to see if it
appears to be valid data or garbage, and we'll take it from
there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003></SPAN><SPAN
class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>sorry for the headaches. You've got a weird error, that's for
sure.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>-jeff!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=829524513-26082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> CJ Luck
[mailto:clrockets@charter.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 25, 2003 8:29
PM<BR><B>To:</B> floppertalk@oldskool.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Floppertalk]
Help! The computer sticks after reboot during
installation!!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>when i run the install program after booting to
the floppy disk, and push enter, the drive light comes on but nothing
happens.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jleyda@micron.com
href="mailto:jleyda@micron.com">jleyda@micron.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=floppertalk@oldskool.org
href="mailto:floppertalk@oldskool.org">floppertalk@oldskool.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 25, 2003 6:46
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Floppertalk] Help! The
computer sticks after reboot during installation!!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747394313-25082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>can you provide just a few more details?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747394313-25082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>actually, can you try this version and see if this
helps?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747394313-25082003></SPAN><SPAN
class=747394313-25082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747394313-25082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2><A
href="http://www.waste.org/~winkles/flop_102.zip">http://www.waste.org/~winkles/flop_102.zip</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747394313-25082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747394313-25082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>-jeff!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747394313-25082003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> CJ Luck
[mailto:clrockets@charter.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 24, 2003
12:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:floppertalk@oldskool.org">floppertalk@oldskool.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during
installation!!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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