[Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during i nstallation!!

floppertalk@oldskool.org floppertalk@oldskool.org
Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:41:11 -0600


Ok, let's make sure.

Send me your vectable.dat file again and I'll see if it's garbage data
or if it looks like a valid vector table.

If it is a valid vector table, try booting to a known good disk image.
You can pick up a few here:

http://retrograde.trustno1.org/index.html

With a known good disk image and a real vector table, you should be
golden.

-jeff!

-----Original Message-----
From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:34 PM
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org
Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during
i nstallation!!


the installation process finished successfully. But, when I run flopper
after installation, it won't boot an image file.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jleyda" <jleyda@micron.com>
To: <floppertalk@oldskool.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot during
i nstallation!!


> It won't be able to boot image files until the installation process 
> works
properly.
>
> "Format a: /u" a new disk and run the install program all over again 
> (not
"install /2")
> We need to get past this problem of install hanging up when it reboots
your computer because install is not saving the proper data to the
floppy drive when it boots to that disk.
>
> The data that flopper collects during the installation process is 
> vital to
its operation when booting disks.
>
> With a new, freshly formatted diskette without any bad sectors, do a 
> full
install again.
> If it continues to hang after rebooting, there is something evil with 
> your
computer that I won't be able to help you with.
>
>
> -jeff!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:39 PM
> To: floppertalk@oldskool.org
> Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot 
> during i
nstallation!!
>
>
> followed your instructions but it still won't boot the image files.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jleyda" <jleyda@micron.com>
> To: <floppertalk@oldskool.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot
during i
nstallation!!
>
>
> > It didn't work.
> >
> > My guess is that the diskette itself is bad or formatted weird. In 
> > pure dos, do a "format a: /u" and if the disk has any bad sectors or
> doesn't format out to the correct size (ie, it's a 1.44mb disk and it
formats to 1.2mb or 720k) then try another disk.
> >
> > For some reason, install is unable to write to sectors 2 and 3.
> >
> > -jeff!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:31 PM
> > To: floppertalk@oldskool.org
> > Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot 
> > during i
> nstallation!!
> >
> >
> > Thanks! It worked. Here's the vectable.dat file for u 2 analyze.
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:53:26 -0600
> >   jleyda <jleyda@micron.com> wrote:
> > >I'm starting to get a really bad feeling about this, but try this 
> > >one:
> > >
> > >http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip
> > ><http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip>
> > >
> > >do the "install /2" again.
> > >
> > >I've removed all the unnecessary diskette writes from the 2nd 
> > >portion of the install.
> > >
> > >This version (for me, even running it in a DOS window under XP) was

> > >able to read data off the floppy and save it to a file called 
> > >vectabl.dat.
> > >
> > >good luck.
> > >
> > >You should most certainly mail me the file "vectabl.dat" that it 
> > >creates so I can verify that it's actually a vector table and not 
> > >some random garbage from your floppy disk.  If install is failing 
> > >this miserably, I can't imagine that it was actually able to write 
> > >the correct data to the floppy, but ya never know.
> > >
> > >-jeff!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > >From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:14 PM
> > >To: floppertalk@oldskool.org
> > >Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks
> > >after reboot during installation!!
> > >
> > >
> > >When i try install /2 it hangs when trying to read the disk.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: jleyda <mailto:jleyda@micron.com>
> > >To: 'floppertalk@oldskool.org' <mailto:'floppertalk@oldskool.org'>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:53 AM
> > >Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks
> > >after reboot during installation!!
> > >
> > >Do you have any virus protection enabled in the BIOS on your 
> > >computer? Flopper tries to re-write the boot sector at this point, 
> > >which is rather virus-like in behavior and might be caught by the 
> > >BIOS.
> > >
> > >Are you using a 1.44mb disk?  (high density 3.5") and a high 
> > >density 3.5" drive?
> > >
> > >The vital information that flopper needs *might* be saved onto the 
> > >diskette even though it hung up at that point.
> > >  Try this:
> > >
> > >Boot into safe mode DOS, change to wherever you unzipped flopper, 
> > >put the flopper diskette in the drive and type "install /2"  and 
> > >install should then attempt to read the data off the disk that it 
> > >needs and will save it to a file called vectabl.dat.  The file will

> > >be 1k in size. You'll need the install.com from the new version of 
> > >flopper that I linked you to yesterday.
> > >
> > >
> > >If you'd like, mail that vectable.dat file to me jeff@silent.net 
> > ><mailto:jeff@silent.net>  and I can check to see if it appears to 
> > >be valid data or garbage, and we'll take it from there.
> > >
> > >sorry for the headaches.  You've got a weird error,
> > >that's for sure.
> > >
> > >-jeff!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net]
> > >Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 8:29 PM
> > >To: floppertalk@oldskool.org
> > >Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks
> > >after reboot during installation!!
> > >
> > >
> > >when i run the install program after booting to the
> > >floppy disk, and push enter, the drive light comes on but nothing 
> > >happens.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: jleyda@micron.com <mailto:jleyda@micron.com>
> > >To: floppertalk@oldskool.org <mailto:floppertalk@oldskool.org>
> > >Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:46 AM
> > >Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks
> > >after reboot during installation!!
> > >
> > >can you provide just a few more details?
> > >actually, can you try this version and see if this helps?
> > >
> > >http://www.waste.org/~winkles/flop_102.zip
> > ><http://www.waste.org/~winkles/flop_102.zip>
> > >
> > >-jeff!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: CJ Luck [mailto:clrockets@charter.net]
> > >Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:18 AM
> > >To: floppertalk@oldskool.org <mailto:floppertalk@oldskool.org>
> > >Subject: [Floppertalk] Help! The computer sticks after reboot 
> > >during installation!!
> > >
> > >
> > >minordomo@oldskool.org
> > >
> >
> > CJ Luck
> > Technical Director
> > 289-8605
> > clrockets@charter.net
> >
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